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one2one69 - 17.04.24 / 08:01

it's Stachu and Stachu !

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Van... VanSanD xD or Old Fart smiley

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Posted on 22-11-2009 21:30
doc_noc wrote:
hehe ..its a cover-version
the difference -a remix is a new interpretation of a song
eg bob marlery in a techno version, you change the whole rhythm and everything
a coverversion dont change the original in his originally style

in this case:
original - commercial dance-trance
new version - commercial dance-trance

the whole story in german here :
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverversion


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coverversion
Die Coverversion ist stets eine „andere Umgestaltung“ im Sinne des § 23 UrhG,[1] selbst wenn sie originalgetreu nachgespielt wird. ...


Cover version = the above called "andere Umgestaltung" = after §23 UrhG not allowed without written permission of the copyright owner.


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Posted on 22-11-2009 21:48
can u read ?
...ist kein Einverständnis des Urhebers vom Original erforderlich; die Anmeldung der wiedergegebenen Coverversion bei der Verwertungsgesellschaft genügt...
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Posted on 22-11-2009 22:32
doc_noc wrote:
can u read ?
...ist kein Einverständnis des Urhebers vom Original erforderlich; die Anmeldung der wiedergegebenen Coverversion bei der Verwertungsgesellschaft genügt...

Problem here is: I put more trust in the law than in articles on Wikipedia.

Solely the fact that several parties can interpret the law differently should even let you see that it's always better if you acquire a written permission when using copyrighted material or rearranging it.

And by the way: I fairly doubt that the GEMA (if the original track is registered there) was informed about this 'cover version'.

But hey: it's not my money that is burned for lawyer, court, etc. if it comes to a lawsuit...


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Edited by Krupp23 on 22-11-2009 22:33
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Posted on 22-11-2009 23:21
If you RELEASE the song
( atm no one can buy it )
you just have to name the composers of the original in the credits and its all good
btw..i was working in the music business for a few years...if you have any more questions just ask smiley
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Posted on 23-11-2009 01:12
I was just so tempted so I just made a full Remix of it =)


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Posted on 24-11-2009 14:05
http://www.babelgum.com/4007716/ultrarealistic-modern-warfare-video-game-features-engine-repair-awaiting-orders.html

And to the whole remix-lawthingeling: Doesn't common sense tell you that it can't be legal to use someone others work just like that, without his/hers permission??!


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Posted on 24-11-2009 16:20
yes sounds logic anti
too bad law not logic smiley
this shit was my daily bread a few years
now music industy make more money with cell phone sounds than with CDs / real music, thats why im outta there smiley

COVER
is a new Version of a song
you can add new instruments and everything but DONT CHANGE in its ORIGINALLY style
you dont need permission for this, when you release the record you just tell GEMA( text and music by David Guetta/whatever)
and he will get his money at the end of the year with his GVL-payment

REMIX
is also complete new version of a song but
you CAN CHANGE the originally style / make something complete different
For THIS you have to ask the artist, and if he agree you have to PAY him about 5000 €(average amount, depending on artist ) BEFORE YOU RELEASE
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Posted on 24-11-2009 16:36
Yes so basically you agree to Krupp and me: you had to pay either to the artist or to the GEMA, not paying to anyone is against german law...and COULD be prosecuted...
...for sure there will be a difference if you release it "for fun" or "for profit", still I doubt that you as a private person are allowed to release your remix on youtube without any permissions, imho it only is tolerated!



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Posted on 24-11-2009 16:43
i still explain too complicated...hmmmmm...
ok try this:

coverversion gema pays

remix you pay
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Posted on 24-11-2009 17:43
doc_noc wrote:
REMIX
is also complete new version of a song but
you CAN CHANGE the originally style / make something complete different
For THIS you have to ask the artist, and if he agree you have to PAY him about 5000 €(average amount, depending on artist ) BEFORE YOU RELEASE


That's an insane amount of money. But this most be from case to case really. also depending on record company/Artist I beleive


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Posted on 25-11-2009 13:10
yes sure depending on the popularity of the track you want to remix
AND
is important that the artist likes your remix, if not he gonna say burn this bullshit remix
and if he really like and he think your work is good for him
you maybe have to pay nothing smiley
so much talking...here is a example for a remix like this
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Posted on 27-11-2009 00:06
but anyway is better not to remix or cover and get all the monay smiley

check out this dude here..no samples...look at his fingers ..im glad he makes music and dont play...or thats where the accuracy comes from? smiley

http://vimeo.com/7733666
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Posted on 27-11-2009 07:41
http://vimeo.com/7733666

THIS IS DA SHIT! smileysmileysmileysmileysmiley

Dude, remixing is to low for this guy xD


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Posted on 27-11-2009 12:17
nice aim, but he doesn't use half of the buttons...



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Posted on 27-11-2009 12:45
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2F4Y, yes but only in a Jet smiley
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2F4Y, yes but only in a Jet smiley
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Posted on 29-11-2009 19:26
^^OMFG smiley

I wonder how long they needed to check out the timing etc.


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Posted on 30-11-2009 04:01
holly crap.. That was I-N-Z-A-N-E


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Posted on 30-11-2009 16:20
wuup wuuupp Nice One !
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